Friday, December 18, 2009

"How can changing our economy cool the temperature?"

Err, by taxing (more precisely pricing) the activities that drive warming.

I'm worried, less so by Professor Ian Plimer, who takes part in the discussion outlined below and who distinguished himself memorably on LateLine, but by the man asking the question.

He is Luke Bona of 2GB, a Sydney radio station that was once taken seriously.

The audio's here, James Farrell had a go at the transcript, and I've checked it against the audio and made it completely accurate.

Bona: Penny Wong is saying changing our economy is crucial to fighting climate change. I wanna ask you, because I don’t understand this, how can changing the economy cool the temperature? [Plimer chuckles, as though this a self-evidently ludicrous connection]. I’ll repeat, I'll say again what she said. She says: ‘changing our economy is crucial to fighting climate change.’

Plimer: Well, I’m not so sure how throwing money up in the air and flushing it down our sewerage system is going to change climate. I think she needs to explain the science behaind that statement. That’s the sort of statement you make in the front bar of a pub after you’ve been there all day. [Laughs] It's quite entertaining.

Bona: I don't understand it either.

This wasn't even midnight to dawn.

Prices affect behaviour. Not every price change will change behaviour, some are too small relative to other forces at work. Sometimes the effect of income changes that take place at the same time overwhelm the price effect.

But pure price effects work, if the price is pushed high enough.

That's why we have fines. They change behaviour.

For an interviewer not to know this, or to pretend not to know it, saddens me on behalf the people who listen to a once serious radio outfit.

Yes I know that 2GB staff are prepped to play to prejudices. Defectors talk.

But I'm still saddened.

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Anonymous said...

I can't find the right words to describe this behaviour, it's even sadder that it is having an effect. The right seems to have finally admitted that market economics is all BS and can't work to solve problems.

Anonymous said...

Peter, this is totally off the track and I don't expect you to post the comment -- but I wanted to put something in front of you quickly.

What's happened to the Henry review??

Haven't we been promised it would be handed to government before the end of the year?

It's the week before Christmas. Seems to be getting pretty late for something like that to happen...

Has it been shelved and held over until next year?

Marek said...

I'm pretty sure the review is due on the 24th of December

Anonymous said...

Fines never stopped me speeding.
High taxes haven't stopped me from drinking, or driving a car either(fuel excise and taxes)
This is just theft by the government because thats all there good at.


badm0f0 said...

Yes but you are paying some of the social costs to government to maintain those same behaviour(s) so who is really winning that little game?

Anonymous said...

I fear 2010 will be the year of dumbing-down.
Increasingly I fear the media and commentators taking their lead from the Abbott/Joyce model of popularism and appeal to ignorance - and rejection of responsible leadership

Adam S said...

Anon, politicians of all stripes engage in populism. It's not an affliction peculiar to the left or right.

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