Wednesday, March 04, 2009

We're negative.

Minus 0.5 per cent in the December quarter.

It was a shocker almost everywhere.

 
We're now 2/3 through the March quarter.  Which means we're in recession now.

11 comments:

Andos said...

It goes without saying that the Opposition is going to use this data to assert that the Government's December stimulus package had no effect.

What I want to know is, when can we expect any kind of empirical and objective assessment of the effect on our economy of the December stimulus package?

What do you think, Peter? Would the December quarter GDP have been a much greater negative number if not for the stimulus package?

Marek said...

Looks like inventories are where the big hit happened in, which makes sense as everyone I know has been cutting how much stock they are sitting on.

I guess this means no revision in 3rd quarter numbers.

Peter Martin said...

effectively no revision

Anonymous said...

PETER,

On what basis do you ASSERT we are now in recession?

Regards
Nick

Peter Martin said...

The basis that I outlined.

We are two-thirds the way through the following quarter and most (although not all) indicators have got worse.

Even if they got somewhat better overall, we would still be in recession as popularly defined.

Naturally a really big turnaround could prove my ASSERTION wrong.

I'd be welcome.

Anonymous said...

Dont understand your argument, all it takes is 0.1 % growth in Mar and we avoid technical definition of recession. Given stocks were depleted in Dec, there is still domestic demand and the fiscal stimulus starts impacting in March I would of thought a positive March quarter is more than possible?

Regards
Nick

Peter Martin said...

Car sales fell a further 17.6 per cent in February.

Let's hope a positive March quarter is more than possible.

Anonymous said...

lol reference to car sales

Anonymous said...

Peter's right. And what's wrong with making the call this early?

Some of the things that were strong in the December quarter certainly won't be as strong in this one (exports + business investment)

Anonymous said...

Time will tell, inventories wont be depleted again and Id expect public investment and consumption to start to come through and possible some of the stimulus to flow through to consumption.

Predictions are fine.

To suggest we are actually in recession is speculation not fact though.

You only ever know you've been in a recession after the fact.

Nick

Peter Martin said...

I should have said "it looks as if we are in a recession now".

It does. We'll see.

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